: It would be nice if the senate votes against the keystone pipeline…X
Person 1: And it will cost another democrat her Senate seat in Louisiana!!! Good times…..and the Senate will pass it in January anyhow.
: Yes, that’s very sad. But it’s nice that it didn’t pass, because it’s nice when our govt acknowledges our demands and concerns at all. Every little bit matters when the goal is to hold back the progress of climate change and move forward on democracy.
Person 1: The science on climate change (used to be global warming….funny we don’t use that term anymore isn’t it) is controversial AT BEST and downright fraudulent at worst. Why we would make any decision based on that baffles me. We, for better or worse, do not have a democracy either. It’s a representative republic. Your individual opinion only matters inasmuch as you can cajole your state rep or senator to see things your way. Out there people have seen fit to elect one of the dumbest people in congress (Nancy Pelosi), though she has been bright enough to use her position in government to make herself and her husband richer than most of us could ever aspire to…..yet she somehow has the average person’s interests in mind? It would be funny if it weren’t so sad actually.
Person 2: Hi! The reason that we don’t use the term “global warming” anymore is largely a result of Republican strategist Frank Luntz deciding that “global warming” sounded too frightening to people. “Climate change” was deemed to be a less threatening alternative, and, given the fact that the right-wing has an entire “news” network behind it, it has become what we’ve used today. Since “climate change” has come into use, the very real threat of “global warming” continues to go unaddressed. If you have kids, or are thinking of having kids, this should concern you.
Memo exposes Bush’s new green strategy The US Republican party is changing tactics on the environment, avoiding “frightening” phrases such as global… THEGUARDIAN.COM|BY OLIVER BURKEMAN
Person 1: The term changed largely because starting in 1997, the average global temperature started going down. A simple Google search verifies this. Assuming that you refer to Fox News, it hardly passes the stink test that they changed the terms and forced…..oh I don’t know…..CNN, NBC, PMSNBC, ABC,and CBS to go along with it. More likely the advocates realized that since the planet has been COOLING for 18 years, the term is hard to justify.
Person 2: October 2014 Was World’s Warmest October on Record: NOAA The global average temperature for the world’s land and…WEATHER.COM
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: Hi! While you were talking, I was taking in the sublime nature of Yosemite, whose falls were falling after some much needed rain. I recommend reading this article:
Earth’s Temperature Tracker : Feature Articles NASA scientist James Hansen has tracked Earth’s temperature for decades, and he is confident the global…
: Climate change and human rights are inextricably linked, which is one of the reasons indigenous peoples are at the forefront of the fight against the pipeline. Fighting for democracy and against the mechanisms that negatively impact the climate is not only a global cause, it’s something that deeply effects individuals and marginalized communities. Living in your home safely, with the resources we need to survive (like clean*, affordable drinking water) is a human right. Fighting against the keystone pipline and dirty energy (and the money, corporations and govts that would support it) is necessary in terms of minimizing the effects of global wamrning on a large scale. It’s also one of the greatest ways to support human rights. To deny people who suffer because of the dangers of fracking is wrong. To assume it’s safe is ignorant. Plus, jobs change with when our demands change, so while I understand there are people who would benefit from the creation of pipleines (like fossil fuels and nuclear energy), I know (safer) work goes on without it. Social dignity and the right to work is something I strongly support, in conjunction with the people’s climate movement. I believe economic justice is an esential force for environmental justice because it’s where one of the greatest disconnects lies. If we can’t see beyond the struggles of one given day, how can we imagine a brighter future without the chains of capitalism, or any authoritarian, imperial machine? Beliving we can be part of the solution to end tyranny means understanding our priveledge. Equality (race, age, sexual orientation, gender, economic, regilgious, animal, etc.) will naturally reduce the damage people do to the earth. To sum it up, It’s a fundamental human right to live as safely as possible, while speaking your truth. Anyone can do that (as long as we have free internet and other necessary freedoms) as this convo illustrates. When we don’t listen to people (esp. oppressed peoples), then we’re can’t completely understand how to make positive changes, or why we fight for them. My voice is only small part (specific to my experience and beliefs) of a movement that is greater and more powerful than science (though it’s certainly based on scenitifc evidence) or any article or google search, or even on the weather (rain on, california!). A democratic climate movement is about the right to express our love for humans and the ecosystems that support our life on this beautiful planet.